Spare defraud and Spoils the government
Saddam and his sons a bit too cruel? Simple. Kill 100,000 Iraqis and lose 1,500 troops doing it. To eliminate three men.
Social Security gonna be a little short of cash in 35 years? Build a multi-trillion dollar replacement plan with lesser guarantees to the elderly.
And in each of these cases, dozens of political cronies will reap the windfall profits of these ’solutions’. Soldiers die and someone gets richer for it. Seniors will be in poorhouses and someone will get richer for it.
That’s the approach to everything Bush tackles. Magnify the molehill to make it seem a mountain. If the bathwater’s lukewarm, instead of a gallon of hot, toss the bathwater, toss the baby, toss the tub…. hell, toss the bathroom, too. Then privatize the mudhole so someone cleans up, and it sure won’t be the bather.
It’s not about re-inventing government. It’s about legalizing rape.
January 30th, 2005 at 3:03 am
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So, what, you’re anti-rape now? You liberals are so wishy-washy! Next, you’ll be whining about female infanticide, or ethnic cleansing or global thermonukuler war! What’s WITH you people???
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January 30th, 2005 at 4:37 am
Nice.
January 30th, 2005 at 4:46 am
The essence of modern Republicanism seems to be the identification of Federal revenues to which you can sell your supporters access for skimming or looting purposes.
January 30th, 2005 at 5:23 am
Under BushCo’s privatization scam, administration costs will go from 1% to somewhere between 10 and 30. That’s small government?
January 30th, 2005 at 6:14 am
It€™s not about re-inventing government. It€™s about legalizing rape.
Your point is, Kev?
January 30th, 2005 at 6:51 am
I’m reading Barbara Tuchman’s “The March of Folly”.
She describes an empire occupied by corruption and patronage, allowing itself to be divorced from reality, and assuming it can subdue by force a far-off people slowly pushed towards rebellion by use of that force.
The empire was Britain, and the far-off people were the American colonies.
I recommend the book; the parallels are interesting.
January 30th, 2005 at 7:01 am
Kevin,
Take a moment and re-read your post. Legalized rape for Christ’s sake!! I think your tin foil hat needs adjusting.
You are right about Social Security however. Why do these Bushes keep going on and on about a “lock box”?
Mark
W……..still the President
Oops…another democracy…thank you Mr. President
January 30th, 2005 at 7:47 am
Hey, Kev. Isn’t it just a little tougher today to be cynical and elitist after so many people went to the polls ?
January 30th, 2005 at 8:24 am
What polls? Elitist? Cynical? What are you talking about Freescreech? And why aren’t you in church, redeeming your soul?
January 30th, 2005 at 8:29 am
And btw Freescreech, you have a right to free speech on public property. Here you only have the right to a debate on the merits unless you prefer the standard path of kids who troll and prefer to make an ass of yourself by displaying no single point beyond “Oh yeah? Well we’re better.”
That’s just so eighth grade…
January 30th, 2005 at 8:53 am
Isn’t it about time we stop talking about “privitization?” It seems to me we are loosing the good aspects of that word (or concept) by relating it to Bush’s fascist cronyism. I don’t know what the correct word would be but selective re-distribution is certainly not “private” enterprise…
January 30th, 2005 at 12:11 pm
It’s never a tough day to be cynical!
January 30th, 2005 at 1:26 pm
When an unexplained boom sounded near one Baghdad voting station, some women put their hands to their mouths and whispered prayers. Others continued walking calmly to the voting stations. Several shouted in unison: “We have no fear.'’
Here’s the merits.
January 30th, 2005 at 1:57 pm
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Yeah, vote them ayatollahs in, so we can get the hell out of there! Iran will thank us for the invasion & occupation. Turkey will not, once the Kurds break off their own State. We can only hope the Sunni’s don’t establish a terrorist State in the middle of it all. Oh, wait! They already HAVE!!!
Keep drinkin’ the Kool-Aid, freespeech-on-somebody-elses-dime.
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January 30th, 2005 at 3:01 pm
I can’t. You lefties emptied the smiley jar before I got there.
January 30th, 2005 at 4:38 pm
There will be no democracy for over 100,000 dead Iraqi civilians. We have more people eager to harm us now because of the death we brought to so many families. You keep thinking it’s about Left and Right, Freescreech. I keep saying it’s about what is best for Americans, and all others from these policies. You can call it partisan. I call it inhumane vs. humane. My hands spilled no innocent blood. My bank account grew no fatter from the killing. And yet I am hated by millions simply because of the President’s choices. My children are at risk. I am forced to pay for this racket, to give my taxes to war profiteers.
Call it left or right all you want, but I was raised to believe these choices by the president are wrong, that he’s committed war crimes and that he’s endangered us all, physically and fiscally. By what rationale do you defend this death and destruction, Freescreech? If Bush has the right to do this to millions of families, then I must have the same right to do it to your family, if I simply believe one member of your family is a threat to mine. I need no proof except that your family has refused to turn over its weapons to me, per Bushlogic.
January 30th, 2005 at 5:06 pm
First, the 100,000 figure you’ve seized upon and blame your country for is completely unsubstantiated. Be that as it may, you’ve been hated ” by millions(?)” for a long time before now: millions of Japanese, Germans, Serbs, Vietnamese, blah blah blah and yes, Arabs… who’ve been after you since your country and a Democratic President supported the creation of Israel in 1948. Bill Clinton spilled ” innocent blood ” in Kosovo. So new innocent blood has you in a rage ? No, I think not. You just don’t like George Bush. I doubt the ” innocent blood ” before that lost you much sleep.
Millions of people went out and risked their lives to vote today, the same way millions more did so last fall in Afghanastan. If you turned on the TV today, you saw them dancing in the streets. Maybe it won’t work in the end, but that’s no reason to be so cynical about it, and everything else, for that matter.
And by the way, you mentioned something about being ” eighth grade ” in post#10. Calling me ” freescreech ” wouldn’t be a bit eight grade now, would it ?
January 30th, 2005 at 6:33 pm
The 100,000 dead were reported in a study by Johns Hopkins researchers in the British medical journal The Lancet back in October 2004. The methodology has been challenged by those with an axe to grind, but hasn’t yet been discredited.
January 30th, 2005 at 6:49 pm
http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/transcripts_110504_f.html
Both the methodology and the logic of that # can be questioned by more than those” with an axe to grind “.
January 30th, 2005 at 8:52 pm
and blame your country for is completely unsubstantiated.
I do not blame ‘my country’. I blame George Bush, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz and Doug Feith.
What does it require to be substantiated? An official seal from the Bush admin? They’ve deliberately limited counting, and maintained silence… and their numbers in any case can’t be trusted.
you€™ve been hated € by millions(?)€ for a long time before now: millions of Japanese, Germans, Serbs, Vietnamese, blah blah blah and yes, Arabs
That’s neither relevant nor true, as I was not even alive for WWII. The Vietnamese didn’t hate us till LBJ began turning the country into a bloodbath with the fake Gulf of Tonkin incident as justification. Between him and Nixon, a million of them died, so they had every legit reason to hate us.
As for Arabs, their dislike of us was not sufficient to compel most to attack us. Perhaps 10,000 worldwide were so motivated, perhaps even fewer. But Iraqis have legit reasons to hate us now. Previously I’m unaware of any Iraqi attacking an American ever, except when we invaded their country.
Israel’s creation was shepherded by the Brits, and it was 20 years later before we took up the role of Israel’s chief defender.
As for Kosovo, there was an active war raging for years before we intervened to end it. That’s significantly different than this. But I was angry at some of the mistakes made there that did cost lives.
I’m not at all cynical about these events. I’m just stating the obvious: killing is wrong. I have done what I could to prevent every war, by any President, since I was a teenager. Except Afghanistan and Bosnia, and the intervention in Haiti. Two of those were done to limit ongoing killing and the third, to take down the infrastructure of an enemy that attacked us.
I wasn’t opposed to Bush for that. Kinda shoots holes in your theory. Quit assuming you know me better than I do. And quit assuming that everyone opposing the war is a Lefty, or that all Lefties are motivated to think and feel in lockstep. I never exactly fawned over Clinton, either.
January 30th, 2005 at 10:52 pm
The bottom line is…Bush and his minions deceived the American people. His words and his actions bear witness against him. You can’t change causes for going to war once the battle has begun without proving yourself to be a lair or a fool. Bush lacks honor, he lacks integrity, and he lacks a common decency. He’s nothing but a self serving scoundrel willing to waste precious lives to accomplish his delusional vision of greatness..History will judge him, and as it stands now,he’s already been convicted by a shortage of WMD’s. But Freedom is on the march!, right!
And to dismiss his accountability as a leader of our nation through the ignorance of the American public in the election is an absolute insult and the epitome of arrogance.
January 31st, 2005 at 11:35 am
I€™m just stating the obvious: killing is wrong. I have done what I could to prevent every war, by any President, since I was a teenager…
Complete pacifism is a lofty goal, but sometimes justice can only be achieved by force of arms.
January 31st, 2005 at 1:31 pm
I am not a complete pacifist! Christ, I was a military brat. I just believe that war is a last resort and too many politicians don’t understand where ‘last’ is.