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December 4, 2005

The New York Times makes me laugh

What’s this? The New York Times is turning its hand to comedy?

Behind the headlines, however, intelligent design as a field of inquiry is failing to gain the traction its supporters had hoped for. It has gained little support among the academics who should have been its natural allies. And if the intelligent design proponents lose the case in Dover, there could be serious consequences for the movement’s credibility.

Heh.

On college campuses, the movement’s theorists are academic pariahs, publicly denounced by their own colleagues. Design proponents have published few papers in peer-reviewed scientific journals.

Hah.

The Templeton Foundation, a major supporter of projects seeking to reconcile science and religion, says that after providing a few grants for conferences and courses to debate intelligent design, they asked proponents to submit proposals for actual research.

“They never came in,” said Charles L. Harper Jr., senior vice president at the Templeton Foundation, who said that while he was skeptical from the beginning, other foundation officials were initially intrigued and later grew disillusioned.

Ha ha…not even good enough for the Templeton Foundation!

“From the point of view of rigor and intellectual seriousness, the intelligent design people don’t come out very well in our world of scientific review,” he said.

Hee hee.

While intelligent design has hit obstacles among scientists, it has also failed to find a warm embrace at many evangelical Christian colleges. Even at conservative schools, scholars and theologians who were initially excited about intelligent design say they have come to find its arguments unconvincing. They, too, have been greatly swayed by the scientists at their own institutions and elsewhere who have examined intelligent design and found it insufficiently substantiated in comparison to evolution.

The evangelical colleges don’t like it? Ha, ha-ha haaaa!

“It can function as one of those ambiguous signs in the world that point to an intelligent creator and help support the faith of the faithful, but it just doesn’t have the compelling or explanatory power to have much of an impact on the academy,” said Frank D. Macchia, a professor of Christian theology at Vanguard University, in Costa Mesa, Calif., which is affiliated with the Assemblies of God, the nation’s largest Pentecostal denomination.

<giggle>

At Wheaton College, a prominent evangelical university in Illinois, intelligent design surfaces in the curriculum only as part of an interdisciplinary elective on the origins of life, in which students study evolution and competing theories from theological, scientific and historical perspectives, according to a college spokesperson.

Wheaton doesn’t seem to fly as far off the deep end as some of the bible colleges, so this is no surprise and warrants only a chuckle.

The only university where intelligent design has gained a major institutional foothold is a seminary. Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., created a Center for Science and Theology for William A. Dembski, a leading proponent of intelligent design, after he left Baylor, a Baptist university in Texas, amid protests by faculty members opposed to teaching it.

Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-haaa! How isolated can Dembski get? The lone kook in his lonely outpost on the fringe…hee-hee.

Intelligent design and Mr. Dembski, a philosopher and mathematician, should have been a good fit for Baylor, which says its mission is “advancing the frontiers of knowledge while cultivating a Christian world view.” But Baylor, like many evangelical universities, has many scholars who see no contradiction in believing in God and evolution.

Those theistic evolutionists, out there undermining the good work of the Discovery Institute—yee-hah!

Derek Davis, director of the J. M. Dawson Institute of Church-State Studies at Baylor, said: “I teach at the largest Baptist university in the world. I’m a religious person. And my basic perspective is intelligent design doesn’t belong in science class.”

I. Am. Laughing. My. Ass. Off.

Mr. Davis noted that the advocates of intelligent design claim they are not talking about God or religion. “But they are, and everybody knows they are,” Mr. Davis said. “I just think we ought to quit playing games. It’s a religious worldview that’s being advanced.”

<snort> Yeah. Someone noticed.

John G. West, a political scientist and senior fellow at the Discovery Institute, the main organization supporting intelligent design, said the skepticism and outright antagonism are evidence that the scientific “fundamentalists” are threatened by its arguments.

Anybody else see any “scientific fundamentalists” quoted in this article? I saw a bunch of theologians and representatives of evangelical colleges dissing ID.

“This is natural anytime you have a new controversial idea,” Mr. West said. “The first stage is people ignore you. Then, when they can’t ignore you, comes the hysteria. Then the idea that was so radical becomes accepted. I’d say we’re in the hysteria phase.”

HA-HA-HA-HA-HA. Ha. Ha. Heeeeee.

He’s right. I’m in hysterics over here. This is freaking hilarious.

“The future of intelligent design, as far as I’m concerned, has very little to do with the outcome of the Dover case,” Mr. West said. “The future of intelligent design is tied up with academic endeavors. It rises or falls on the science.”

BWAAAAH-HAH-HA-HA-HAAAAAAAA!!! You’re killin’ me, West. If I weren’t trying to type, I’d be rolling on the ground, pounding the floor.

Really. This is the funniest thing I’ve read in days. When Baylor and Wheaton dismiss you, when Templeton rejects you, when the major evangelical colleges start backing away from you, maybe it’s time to realize that your little Wedge strategy isn’t working, and the only thing getting split away from the mainstream is your freaky-weird useless ideology.

Point and laugh, everyone! The Discovery Institute is getting the only attention it deserves.

(crossposted to Pharyngula)

5 Responses to “The New York Times makes me laugh”

  1. Kevin Hayden Says:

    If the theory isn’t intelligently designed, perhaps its founder can evolve.

    Naaaaaaaaw. Some mutations prevent further replication. They are just too aberrant to breed.

  2. Eva Young Says:

    Demski gets busted:

    http://www.uncommondescent.com/index.php/archives/545

    WD: I know for a fact that Discovery Institute tried to interest the Templeton Foundation in funding fundamental research on ID that would be publishable in places like PNAS and Journal of Molecular Biology (research that got funded without Templeton support and now has been published in these journals), and the Templeton Foundation cut off discussion before a proposal was even on the table.

    EY: Can you give specific citations for these articles in PNAS and the JMB? I€™d be interested in reading the articles.

    Comment by lloydletta ­ December 4, 2005 @ 8:16 pm

    Yes, me too. What are the citations for the PNAS and Journal of Molecular Biology article(s) that deal with €œfundamental research on ID€? Moreover, I€™d like to hear what you think about the articles, a citation or link to a discussion would be fine.

    Comment by mattdunn2 ­ December 4, 2005 @ 8:31 pm

    Indeed, that€™s an awesome bombshell to drop in a mere parenthetical statement, and then to leave us all hanging is just plain cruel! :)

    Best regards.

    Comment by Marckus ­ December 4, 2005 @ 8:36 pm

  3. Error 404 Says:

    They laughed at Gallileo.

    They laughed at Einstein.

    They laughed at Bozo.

  4. Thor Likes Pizza Says:

    I’m surprised that the nutso orgs did not line up behind ID. Perhaps they do not see a groundswell of fundie rage - a requirement for successful fund-raising (fleecing, to you & me).

    Or ID doesn’t expilcitely say Jeebus enough to be taken seriously by the fundie crowd.

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