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May 4, 2007

Who won the Republican debate? Democrats

Adding a 6/5/07 update on the occasion of the fresh debate: Here’s the verdict of the June debate. The rest, below, is from the May debate post.

Most Republican bloggers say Romney won. Andrew Sullivan said McCain won. What did post-debate polling of the American public say?

Giuliani won.

According to an instant SurveyUSA poll, Rudy Giuliani convincingly won tonight’s Republican presidential debate. Giuliani was picked as the winner by 30% of those in California who watched, followed by Mitt Romney at 12% and Sen. John McCain at 11%. All other candidates were in single digits.

That’s the GOP dillemma in a nutshell. The guy most Americans agree with, who outpolled the combined percentages of #2 and #3 by 30% to 23%, met with sharp disapproval of Republican activists (those most likely to vote in GOP primaries).

Their pursuit of the most unelectable candidate continues to unfold as both amazing and pathetic. And their ace in the hole is a TV actor because they once had a TV actor who proved sufficiently popular to beat a Democrat saddled with the highest inflation rate in US history caused by the bills coming due on a failed war effort and the actions of a very antagonistic OPEC.

Sentimentality is their ace, as they try to raise Ronald Reagan from the dead.

I suppose I’d have to resort to hoping for miracles too if my party was offering such a limp and lame field.

5 Responses to “Who won the Republican debate? Democrats”

  1. Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator Says:

    GOP debate focuses on Iraq war, abortion

    Alone among 10 Republican presidential contenders, Rudy Giuliani said in campaign debate Thursday ni…

  2. Shakesville Says:

    And the Answer Is . . ….

    The biggest battle in the debate on the Republican soundstage last night? Which of “the debaters” could say Ronald Reagan more often and most reverently? Did anybody have any ideas? Some were more evolved than others. When in doubt,……

  3. Kevin Hayden Says:

    When they uttered ‘The Gipper’, did their eyes roll back in their head, followed by a dive to the floor, convulsions and random babble? Sightings of Nancy’s face on toast?

  4. schlumgolian Says:

    Ron Paul won the debate hands down. He wont garner any Republican support though because he dared to speak of the unspeakable…..the Constitution of the United States. Of all the other candidates on both sides, not one has even mentioned upholding the Constitution, a document they would swear to defend if elected. It’s a sad commentary on the state of American politics.

  5. DJ AMP Says:

    Ron Paul Won the debate!!! The main stream media is trying to sensor him!!!

    http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/paul_ron_total_victory_yet_censorship_continues.htm

    Ron Paul: Total Victory, Yet Censorship Continues
    Texas Congressman trounces rivals in all polls but is deliberately pushed to margins by terrified corporate media

    Prison Planet | May 9, 2007
    Paul Joseph Watson
    Ron Paul emerged from last week’s GOP debate as completely victorious according to every available benchmark and yet there is still a deliberate ploy to push the Texas Congressman to the sidelines on behalf of a terrified corporate media.

    Every single major online poll shows conclusively that Ron Paul won the debate by a mammoth margin, trouncing the bought and paid-for shill Neo-Con candidates that the establishment press are sworn to uphold.

    After just over 18,000 votes, the ABC News poll shows Ron Paul with 15,568 compared with nearest rival Mitt Romney who is on a paltry 245. After initially scrubbing Paul from the poll altogether, ABC were forced to add his name after a deluge of furious calls and e mails.

    Ron Paul led MSNBC’s poll right from the start and before it had even been widely circulated. ABC News claims that activist voting and multiple voting by individuals artificially inflated Paul’s numbers, but both claims are demonstrably false. Keith Olbermann reported that Paul was ahead before the link was spread around message boards and blogs and to vote multiple times is impossible - the poll only allows one vote per IP address.

    At time of press, Paul currently has 40% approval and 25% disapproval, compared with 43% disapproval and only 22% approval for Giuliani.

    Capital News, an arm of CSPAN, had Paul leading his nearest rival Mitt Romney by 60% shortly before voting closed. Rudy Giuliani garnered just 6% of the vote.

    Yahoo! News is still censoring Ron Paul by not including him in the list of candidates on their 2008 presidential coverage page , despite the fact that he is wildly popular and has trounced every other Republican candidate in ever online poll.

    After receiving a flood of angry complaints, Yahoo promised to review the situation, but 24 hours later their page is still absent any mention of Ron Paul.

    This whole fiasco underscores the reality that the President of the United States is not elected by the popular will of the people, but instead is selected from a highly restricted gaggle of pre-approved establishment lackeys.

    The corporate media offer the excuse that Ron Paul is not a mainstream candidate and has little chance of winning, therefore their decision to afford him little coverage is justified. But this is a chicken and egg scenario - if the media routinely ignore so-called marginal candidates then they are never going to attain the exposure of a Giuliani or a Romney, thus the media bias becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    If Ron Paul was afforded equal media coverage at every step of the way before the Republican nomination, and if America was still a free country with a democratic process that actually worked, then Ron Paul would be a shoe-in for the Oval Office.

    But the fact remains, as is painfully underscored by the media’s treatment of Ron Paul, that America is a banana republic where the president is not elected by popular will but selected by the corporate and military-industrial kingpins that for whom, upon inauguration, he becomes the puppet.