Misogyny is a ‘real’ issue
The Clinton campaign’s gone on the attack against MSNBC for its latest bit of misogyny in the form of on-air comments made by David Shuster. I’m 100% supportive of Clinton in this instance. Not only has MSNBC developed a pattern in its sexism - with the he-man swooner Chris Matthews as its chief offender - but it is just one of a number of MSM outlets that has gone way over the line of hateful commentary driven by anti-woman sentiment.
This isn’t about politically correct language or extremist feminism or political bias. This is about hate speech. This is about vile behavior that has no place in mainstream media. And before MSNBC responded to its critics, Melissa McEwan cited this and numerous examples of how far overboard it’s become.
Even Barack Obama should step up to the plate and denounce it because he’s been adding a few not-so-subtle sexist comments of his own. I am personally appalled by all of it, and I don’t have to be an endorser of Clinton to recognize and denounce it angrily.
Beyond the apology Shuster will provide, I hear he’s suspended from further participation in political commentary at MSNBC. Some say it’s a firing offense and I think they may be right. But since I don’t always agree that careers should be ended for cluelessness, I can accept the alternative of dismissing him from commentary till after the November election. A temporary suspension is not enough.
one of the things that has always pissed me off about MSM and rightist critiques of both Clintons is it’s rarely been about merited criticism on this or that issue that affects Americans. It’s always about gender, their sex lives, homophobia, conspiracy theories and wild, unsubstantiated rumors. And as a result, even Democrats who are critical of DLC policies both Clintons have championed, or of NAFTa, or their actual performance on critical issues feel compelled to defend the Clintons from these stupid, baseless and hateful attacks.
The MSM and rightists actually help consolidate support for the Clintons instead of weakening them in any way.
And they still are too stupid to see it, thinking their own critics must be wild-eyed hippie liberals. Christ, even most moderates can feel the obvious burn of blatant sexism. How can conservatives be so utterly stupid? See the death threats against the Dixie Chicks for other recent examples. Or just read the comments from people - including some Obama supporters, wherever this topic is raised. Dumb, dumb, dumber and dumbest.
Will Keith Olbermann denounce his own peers to demonstrate MSNBC has one voice of reason left? Will Obama stand up and say his call for change includes an effort to eliminate Clinton’s gender as germane to her worthiness as a candidate? I call on both to do so. This is a very important issue that should not be treated as a distraction to ‘bigger’ issues.
Not only is hate speech against women a huge issue for the majority demographic in this country - women - but I should think a majority of the men in this country should be capable of recognizing it as such and denouncing it as teh Ugly as it is. Maybe I’m a dreamer to believe a majority can smell an obvious skunk. But I continue to believe that everyone can evolve. And should.
Also read: Digby. Or Digby Wednesday and especially yesterday. And then read Jane Hamsher who puts percentages on the replies she got from commenters.



February 8th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Yes, in impressively strong terms.
February 8th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Misogyny and any sort of anti-female bias have no place in this society.
That being said, these sort of words are trickling out of the mouths of pundits because Hillary is uniformly disliked by many people for many different reasons. She is, lest we ever forget it, a person you either love or hate. If another woman besides Hillary were running, you would not see these hateful comments.
When Jesse Jackson was running for President, I heard blatantly racist comments tumble from the mouths of whites, or at least coded comments. But despite what Bill Clinton might imply by Obama’s South Carolina victory, Barack Obama is NOT Jesse Jackson. Not even close. Barack Obama pulls together a consensus of voters Jesse Jackson couldn’t even have dreamed of.
And, he appears (and yes, appearances can be deceptive) to actually believe in what he says and not be all about advancing his own agenda at the expense of the minority he represents. Jesse Jackson was all about the black community as a bloc. Obama has tried to transcend race and reach to all people, regardless of skin color and yes, even gender.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Sorry CK, but I wholly disagree. You’re blaming Hillary for the hatefulness aimed at her and back when it originated, during her husband’s first term, she’d done nothing at all to earn such vitriol. I’ve seen too many other influential women treated similarly to accept such an easy out.
And what did Chelsea ever do to deserve being called - in so many words - a whore? Misogyny has a very big place in our society. Dismissing it is part of the reason it continues to exist. It takes zero tolerance - like our rejecion of the word ‘nigger’ - to marginalize the haters and make them recognize they won’t fit in anywhere if they choose to be so hateful.
Hillary’s capacity to work with political opponents in the Senate has been remarked about numerous times by those opponents. I neither love nor hate her. I don’t tend to get emotionally involved in total strangers, though some can inspire hope and some - like the guy who killed hundreds of thousands of innocents in Iraq - revulsion. Most politicians inspire indifference and that’s all Hillary does for me.
I’m not going to dwell on your points about Obama, other than to repeat something I read today: you’re going to be sorely disappointed if you’re expecting unicorns and rainbows. Jackson may have lacked the charisma that Obama has but he was a groundbreaker nonetheless, he was inspirational to tens of millions of Americans and the country today is less racist than it was when he ran 20 years ago. It’s like asking who was better, Joe Louis or Muhammed Ali. A direct comparison is impossible for they were different fighters in different times, each necessary and beneficial to the profession they toiled in.